Hi Guys Great improvemnet on 0.85 i think i will be able to work with this. Thanks for vtiger. Openfire still has a issue and first install went wrong with my tdm400p card but will post what i done to fix it. Now the question is how do i change all the passwords? cant use this box on the open network with all the passwords as default and cant find any threads on how to change them. please could you assist. Us linux newbies need this basic info difficult to swim without it.